Interview With Pat McCabe

podcast four
Truth & Trickster: Indigenous sciences of thriving life

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Greetings fellow wonderers and wanderers --

In this fourth episode of The Donkey and the Bridge, I’m grateful to be joined from Taos, New Mexico by Pat McCabe, also known as Woman Stands Shining. Pat is one of the most inspiring and inspired voices I’ve ever come across, bringing an incredibly compassionate yet critical perspective to issues of indigenous knowledges, gender, colonisation, and the many illusions of separation that divide us.

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​BIOGRAPHY:
Pat McCabe is a Diné  mother, grandmother, activist, artist, writer, ceremonial leader, and international speaker. She is a voice for global peace who draws upon the Indigenous sciences of Thriving Life to reframe questions about sustainability and balance. She is devoted to supporting the generations to come, and upholding the honor of being human.​

Follow Pat on Facebook or visit her website at www.patmccabe.net
Also check out two events Pat is facilitating in Spring and Fall

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​If you enjoyed the music used in the podcast and want to find more of the same, here are the artists and their tracks:

• Intro: Lyla June - All Nations Rise
  
• Outro: Buffy Sainte-Marie - God is Alive, Magic is Afoot (original lyrics by Leonard Cohen)